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@aosmith16 I went over for loops very early in class, and they were hard to understand, especially placeholders and starting an empty list. We finally got through them, but I think if you set them up for success for functions and lists, you may be able to jump straight to list-loops
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@aosmith16 This, of course, is probably making all of the CS instructors scream a little bit inside. But I think it's better to teach concepts as you need them, rather than dumping a bunch at the beginning of the course.